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A documentary crew captured the moment Mike Pence reportedly learned of Congress’ plans to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove former President Trump from office after the January 6 Capitol riots, and replace him with the vice president.

In the clip, shot on January 12, 2021, Pence could be seen reading an email on his phone, clearing his throat nervously and exclaiming ‘Yeah, excellent,’ before segueing back into political platitudes.

Documentary maker Alex Holder insists the awkward moment came as Pence read an email calling for Trump’s removal, and says the time stamp on his footage matches that of the time the email was sent. Pence denies this. 

The footage of the unreleased interview, captured less than a week after pro-Trump rioters stormed the Capitol, comes from a documentary by Holder that was recently subpoenaed by a Congress committee investigating the attack.

The interview was held the day the House passed a resolution that called for Pence to replace Trump by way of the amendment. 

The 25th Amendment gives the vice president, as well as most of the Cabinet, the power to declare the president unfit for office – a move that would have put Pence, 63, in charge of the country.

Congress approved the resolution, but Pence promptly shot it down – saying that it would ‘set a terrible precedent’ to invoke the law.

Footage from the interview obtained by CNN shows Pence first learning of Congress’ plans, as he is handed a phone with an email of a draft of the resolution by an aide.

Footage from the interview shows Pence first learning of Congress' plans to oust Donald Trump from office in the days after the January 6 attacks, as he is handed a phone with an email of a draft of the resolution by an aide

Footage from the interview shows Pence first learning of Congress’ plans to oust Donald Trump from office in the days after the January 6 attacks, as he is handed a phone with an email of a draft of the resolution by an aide

‘Yeah, excellent,’ Pence says upon perusing the document, visibly uncomfortable.  

The then vice president then flashes a seemingly forced smirk, and jokingly asks his aide to ‘tell Zach to print me off a hard copy for the trip home.’ 

Pence then proceeds with the rest of the interview, with the former Indiana governor later saying, ‘I am always hopeful about America,’ as a backdrop of crews erecting security fencing around the Capitol looms behind him.

The makers of the documentary, which chronicles Trumps ill-fated 2020 reelection run, assert Pence was shown a draft of the House resolution in the clip.

However, a Pence spokesman said Friday that characterization was false, and that the politician was actually reacting to a confirmation that his letter turning down the prospective coup.

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‘In the documentary, Vice President Pence was reacting to a confirmation that his letter was sent to Speaker Pelosi rejecting her ploy to invoke 25th amendment,” the Pence spokesman said. 

The footage, captured less than a week after pro-Trump rioters stormed the Capitol, comes from a documentary by filmmaker Alex Holder (pictured) who was recently subpoenaed by a Congress committee investigating the attack

The footage, captured less than a week after pro-Trump rioters stormed the Capitol, comes from a documentary by filmmaker Alex Holder (pictured) who was recently subpoenaed by a Congress committee investigating the attack

Pence notes the time of the email – 7:48 PM – in the clip, which is the exact time that the White House sent Pence’s letter to Pelosi, according to a timestamp on the email. 

At the time, news of the letter was widely reported in the coming days.

Pence wrote in his letter: ‘Last week, I did not yield to pressure to exert power beyond my constitutional authority to determine the outcome of the election.’

‘I will not now yield to efforts in the House of Representatives to play political games at a time so serious in the life of our nation.’ 

The amendment was ratified by the states after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, so he could be replaced by then-VP Lyndon B. Johnson. 

The House voted to impeach Trump for inciting the Capitol insurrection the day after the footage was filmed.

However, Trump was soon to be found not guilty for spurring the insurrection by the Senate, following a highly publicized trial.

A majority of senators voted to convict the then president, but failed to garner the required two-thirds majority.

Holder’s three-part documentary series, called ‘Unprecedented,’ offers a unique perspective on the innerworkings of the White House at these time, with his team conducting interviews with Trump, Pence, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and more.

Holder's three-part documentary series, called 'Unprecedented,' offers a unique perspective on the innerworkings of the White House at these time, with his team conducting interviews with Trump, Pence, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and more

Holder’s three-part documentary series, called ‘Unprecedented,’ offers a unique perspective on the innerworkings of the White House at these time, with his team conducting interviews with Trump, Pence, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and more 

Holder appeared for a private deposition before the January 6 select committee on Thursday after complying with the panel’s subpoena for his raw footage of anything related to the Capitol attack as well as his interviews with Trump, his adult children and Pence.

The filmmaker captured dozens of hours of footage during his time following the president and his team, and CBS confirmed that there are at least 11 hours of straight-to-camera interviews with Trump and his family.

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Footage includes what Holder and his team captured on the Capitol grounds in the midst of the attack on January 6, 2021.

Further proving the extent of access is an image obtained and published Thursday by Politico Playbook of a name place card for Holder on Air Force One, which every guest receives when they fly aboard the president’s plane.

Trump world was rocked by the existence of the footage, with one former top 2020 official for Trump exclaiming ‘What the f*** is this?’ in a text message to Rolling Stone, according to a Tuesday article.

Holder appeared for a private deposition before the January 6 select committee on Thursday after complying with the panel's subpoena for his raw footage of anything related to the Capitol attack as well as his interviews with Trump, his adult children and Pence

Holder appeared for a private deposition before the January 6 select committee on Thursday after complying with the panel’s subpoena for his raw footage of anything related to the Capitol attack as well as his interviews with Trump, his adult children and Pence 

Holder is pictured interviewing Trump's daughter and former White House senior adviser Ivanka Trump for his documentary on the final months of the ex-president's reelection campaign

Holder is pictured interviewing Trump’s daughter and former White House senior adviser Ivanka Trump for his documentary on the final months of the ex-president’s reelection campaign

Many top Trump aides for the campaign and administration told the publication they were completely unaware that a documentary was being created or that there was a crew following around the president in the final months of his time in office.

Revelations of the footage also sparked the January 6 panel to add more hearings to the docket in July to delve into the new information.

The subpoena also demands footage of Mike Pence and 'any raw footage pertaining to discussions of election fraud or election integrity surrounding the November 2020 presidential election'

The subpoena also demands footage of Mike Pence and ‘any raw footage pertaining to discussions of election fraud or election integrity surrounding the November 2020 presidential election’

Thursday afternoon the panel will hold its fifth hearing after kicking off a series of at least eight earlier this month. But the number of public and televised hearings will now increase with the hours of documentary footage and testimony from Holder.

Holder’s project on Trump’s 2020 reelection campaign and the final weeks of his presidency will be released on a popular streaming service this summer in a three-part series.

The select committee subpoenaed the raw footage from Holder’s team of anything related to the attack that day as well as interviews with the former president, former vice president, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr .

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Holder released a statement Tuesday saying that he fully cooperated with the subpoena and handed over the footage – he is also meeting with the panel for an interview on Thursday.

Holder was invited on board Air Force One for an interview with Trump, which was ultimately canceled, but helps exhibit the extent of his access. A pictured provided by Holder's production company AJH Films shows his welcome name card during his flight

Holder was invited on board Air Force One for an interview with Trump, which was ultimately canceled, but helps exhibit the extent of his access. A pictured provided by Holder’s production company AJH Films shows his welcome name card during his flight

One former senior Trump official said that revelations on Tuesday of the subpoena was the first time several members of the ex-president’s campaign leadership even heard of the documentary project – including two officials who were still working in the administration after the January 6 attack.

Another former official told Rolling Stone that the whole documentary is a ‘terrible idea’ and said they were unaware of the film and shocked to learn of its existence.

Despite the ignorance to the documentary, the panel probing the former administration’s actions related to the Capitol riot is now using it as evidence and the three-part project is set to be released on a streaming service this summer.

The committee is holding its fifth hearing on Thursday afternoon and will feature testimony from at least three former Justice Department officials Richard Donoghue, Steve Engel and Jeff Rosen.

Donoghue was Trump’s acting deputy attorney general, Engel was an attorney for Trump’s DOJ and Rosen was the former president’s acting attorney general – all were serving over a time period that included January 6, 2021.

Holder was granted extensive access to Trump and his closest allies – including his family members and the vice president – and now the committee probing the January 6 attack wants to see what he captured.

The panel sent a subpoena to Holder on June 15, Politico first reported on Tuesday.

The subpoena demanded three things – the first being any footage Holder and his colleagues took in Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021.

Secondly, the panel told him to turn over any raw footage of interviews Holder had with Trump, his sons Eric and Don Jr., his daughter and senior adviser Ivanka, his senior adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner and his No. 2 Mike Pence.

The committee also asked Holder to hand over ‘any raw footage pertaining to discussions of election fraud or election integrity surrounding the November 2020 presidential election.’

Existence of the footage has previously gone unreported.



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