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Meghan Markle stunned in a pair of £975 black leather trousers and a turleneck jumper as she posed with comedian Ziwe Fumudoh in a new unseen picture from her latest podcast recording.
The Duchess of Sussex, 41, opted for a casual monochome look as she chatted to actress Issa Rae and the Nigerian-American comedian for the new episode called ‘Upending the Angry Black Woman Myth’.
The mother-of-two styled her long brown hair in a sleek low ponytail and opted for minimal makeup as she recorded the 47-minute podcast near her home in Montecito, California.
Offsetting her statement trousers, thought to be by LA designer Anine Bing, the Duchess finished of her look with a pair of simple silver hoop earrings.
Meghan Markle opted for a pair of £975 leather trousers by LA designer Anine Bing and a black roll neck for her latest Archetypes podcast recording. Comedian Ziwe Fumudoh posted a behind-the-scenes picture with the Duchess on Instagram this afternoon
In the latest episode of her podcast, the Duchess spoke with comedian Ziwe Fumudoh and actress Issa Rae. The 45-minute episode was called ‘Upending the Angry Black Woman Myth’.
Th Duchess was previously pictured wearing her designer leather trousers while interviewing The Office star Mindy Kaling last month.
After the podcast episode was released today, comedian Ziwe Fumudoh – who was dressed in a black blazer and silk blouse – shared the behind-the-scenes image with her 448,000 followers.
She captioned the photo: ‘What archetypes do you think Meghan Markle and I represent?’
Meanwhile, discussing her behaviour in work situations during the podcast, the Duchess spoke of her frustration at ‘cowering and tiptoeing into a room’ due to the fear she could be perceived negatively.
‘I’m particular, I think a high tide raises all ships, we’re all going to succeed so let’s make sure it’s really great because it’s a shared success for everybody,’ she said.
‘But I also find myself cowering and tiptoeing into a room and – the thing I find most embarrassing – when you’re saying a sentence and the intonation goes up, like it’s a question.
In ‘Upending The Angry Black Women Myth’, the Duchess of Sussex chats to comedians Issa Rae (left) and Ziwe (right) to explore the stereotypes around ‘women of colour’
On her new podcast today, the Duchess of Sussex said she often found herself ‘cowering and tiptoeing into a room’ due to the feeling that she could not say what she wanted without being perceived negatively
‘And you’re like, ”oh my God, stop stop, like whispering and tiptoeing around it. Just say what it is that you need. You’re allowed to set a boundary. You’re allowed to be clear, it doesn’t make you demanding. It doesn’t make you difficult, it makes you clear.’
The 41-year-old has previously been branded ‘Duchess Difficult’ following claims about her ‘dictatorial’ behaviour and 5am emails – which allegedly prompted her aide Samantha Cohen to quit.
Other ‘broken’ royal aides told of being reduced to tears by bullying and temper tantrums. Meghan has always strenuously denied any claims of bullying.
Early in the episode, comedian Ziwe described how her ‘brash and rude’ onscreen persona was ‘in direct opposition to what a woman should be publicly, according to sexism’.
In a monologue responding to her comments, Meghan said she was ‘so right’ and that ‘when looked at through the lens of black women’ her point of view was ‘pretty inspiring’.
Meghan’s latest podcast comes as she faces backlash for saying Deal or No Deal ‘reduced her to a bimbo’ (pictured on the show)
Introducing the next segment – a conversation with the actress Issa Rae – Meghan said it was time to ‘try on what it feels like when we’re allowed to just live our truths’… ‘to be direct without being called angry, to exist on our own terms, to just be, to just be human’.
After asking Rae if she wants a coffee, Meghan reveals she ‘only recently started drinking coffee again’ after ‘not even thinking about it’ when she was in the UK.
‘When I was on set, of course it was like Nespresso all day, every day. And then I didn’t drink it really in the UK and didn’t think about it.’
Asked why she started drinking it again in the UK, Meghan said: ‘It’s a great question, it’s a great question but like I guess because life started to come back and so people started to come when guests come or meetings or and they’re like oh would you like coffee?’
The duchess later gave another insight into her own acting appointment, and how when she used to go through casting lists of black characters ‘they always had to have an edge or an attitude’.
One example of alleged racism against black women discussed on the podcast was the treatment of Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson during her Senate judiciary committee hearings.
Elsewhere in the episode, released today on Spotify, mother-of-two Meghan (pictured with her husband Prince Harry) admitted she is ‘ particular ‘ but insisted ‘telling people what you need does not make you demanding’ as she claimed black women are stereotyped as ‘angry’
Jackson, the first black woman to serve on the Supreme Court, was quizzed on her views on issues like critical race theory and whether they would interfere with her decision making.
Meghan said: ‘I remember watching these hearings in the summer of 2022. They were gripping and painful. Then Judge Jackson remained poised and composed no matter what was happening for her beneath the surface, which I cannot begin to imagine.’
At the end of the podcast the royal paused to hear a rendition of the poem ‘I Rise’ by Maya Angelou.
Meghan’s latest podcast comes as she faces backlash for saying Deal or No Deal ‘reduced her to a bimbo.’
The Duchess made the comments while speaking on her podcast with Paris Hilton. The episode, called Breaking Down the Bimbo, heard Meghan say she wants her daughter Lilibet to be valued first for her mind, rather than ‘beauty not brains’ as she was on the TV gameshow.
‘I ended up quitting the show. I was so much more than what was being objectified on the stage. I didn’t like feeling forced to be all looks. And little substance,’ the Duchess said of her 34-episode stint on the show.
Actress and chat show host Whoopi Goldberg said Meghan’s remarks were naïve. ‘That’s TV, baby. But what did you think you were going to? You know that’s what the show was,’ she said. ‘When you’re a performer, you take the gig.’
Women who appeared on the show at the same time as Meghan, tell a rather different story from the Duchess. They say the atmosphere was fun rather than oppressive or sleazy.
One of the briefcase girls who worked with Meghan was Lisa Gleave, a successful Australian model, TV presenter and actress now living in LA.
Like Meghan, she had to master the art of walking downstairs in a dress and five-inch heels, holding a briefcase and remembering the cardinal rule: look delighted for the contestant if things go well for them and sad if not.
Gleave told the Mail of her stint on Deal Or No Deal that she felt ‘blessed and lucky to have been on it’, adding: ‘For me it was a joy and a great career move. Most of the girls would say that.’
She said: ‘I never looked at it as a show that objectified women. The cast and crew treated us very well. It was a professional set. For many of us, it was a stepping stone on our careers and we went on to greater things.’
While Lisa acknowledged the show ‘revolved around beautiful women’, they were ‘all smart and intelligent women and nobody treated us like bimbos’.
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