Johnny Depp‘s former agent Christian Carino told the court about emails sent to him by Heard after she broke up with Elon Musk.

Heard began dating the Tesla founder around the time of her split with Depp in May 2016 and by August the following year they had broken up.

Carino, a talent agent with mega agency CAA and Lady Gaga‘s ex-fiance, appeared by a pre-recorded video deposition and confirmed that Heard and Musk were in a relationship for a time.

Asked if Heard moved on to dating Musk ‘immediately after Johnny Depp’, Carino said yes.

In an email on August 7, 2017, Heard told Carino: ‘Dealing with breakup. I hate when things go public. See I’m so sad.’

Carino said that he believed Heard was ‘referring to breaking up with Elon.’

Carino replied to Heard: ‘You weren’t in love with him. You told me 1,000 times you were just feeling space.’

Asked what he meant, Carino said: ‘Why would you be sad if you weren’t in love with him to begin with?’

One of Depp’s lawyers asked: ‘By him you’re referring to who?’

Carino said: ‘Elon.’

Heard’s next email read: ‘I know but I wanted time to grieve and recover in my own time.’

In another email in the same conversation she said: ‘I hate that, yet again a man lets me fall on the spikes by myself.’

Carino said: ‘How so?’

Heard emailed back: ‘They’re mad at me for leaving them and put things like this out there’, apparently referring to the story going public.

Carino responded: ‘You could avoid all this if you stop dating uber famous people.’

Asked what he meant in the email, Carino told the court he was trying to tell Heard: ‘If you don’t like being in the press about your personal life don’t date people that are famous.’

Johnny Depp’s former agent Christian Carino told the court about emails sent to him by Heard after she broke up with Elon Musk

Heard began dating the Tesla founder around the time of her split with Depp in May 2016 and by August the following year they had broken up

Heard began dating the Tesla founder around the time of her split with Depp in May 2016 and by August the following year they had broken up

In another email in the same conversation she said: 'I hate that, yet again a man lets me fall on the spikes by myself.'

In another email in the same conversation she said: ‘I hate that, yet again a man lets me fall on the spikes by myself.’

Carino told the court that Heard’s feelings for Depp lingered after she filed for divorce in May 2016 and that he believed she wanted to reconcile with him, even though she was dating Musk.

Carino, a talent agent with mega agency CAA and Lady Gaga's ex-fiance, appeared by a pre-recorded video deposition and confirmed that Heard and Musk were in a relationship for a time

Carino, a talent agent with mega agency CAA and Lady Gaga’s ex-fiance, appeared by a pre-recorded video deposition and confirmed that Heard and Musk were in a relationship for a time

In an email on July 14 that year, Heard told Carino: ‘It’s so f**ked up I just want to tell him that what they’re telling him isn’t true.’

In an email sent to Carino around the same time, Heard said: ‘Please tell him I love him,’ referring to Depp.

The court heard that in the summer of 2016, Heard asked Carino to set up a meeting with Depp to talk things over.

At the time Depp was the subject of a temporary restraining order and Heard said she could ‘never accuse him of violating the order’ during their meeting, Carino said.

It took place in San Francisco where Depp was on tour with his band, The Hollywood Vampires, in the backyard of a friend’s house.

Carino said they were there for ‘several hours’ chatting until the owner of the house said he was coming back.

To continue the conversation they rented a hotel room but once there Depp and Heard ‘started arguing,’ Carino testified.

Carino said that he left at 5am the following morning – it wasn’t clear if the argument was still ongoing.

But the court has already heard chilling audio of Depp asking Heard to cut him with a knife, telling her: ‘You f**king hate me!’

Despite that, Heard’s feeling for Depp remained strong.

On August 16, 2017, Heard emailed Carino: ‘I’ve written so many notes, can you give him one? I don’t know how or where to start.

‘Finally I am single, clear in my heart and mind. I just want him to know I loved him.’

In a message on June 9, 2018 – six months before Heard wrote the op-ed which is the subject of the case – she messaged Carino: ‘God I miss him,’ referring to Depp.

Johnny Depp cracked up with laughter as the doorman of his building described how Amber Heard asked him to investigate an intruder due to scratches on their front door - which were caused by the dog

Johnny Depp cracked up with laughter as the doorman of his building described how Amber Heard asked him to investigate an intruder due to scratches on their front door - which were caused by the dog

Johnny Depp cracked up with laughter as the doorman of his building described how Amber Heard asked him to investigate an intruder due to scratches on their front door – which were caused by the dog

Earlier in the day, Depp cracked up with laughter as the doorman of his building described how Amber Heard asked him to investigate an intruder due to scratches on their front door – which were caused by the dog.

Alejandro Romero said that Heard and her friend Rocky Pennington told him that ‘somebody tried to get into my unit’ at the Eastern Columbia Building in West Hollywood.

Appearing in a pre-taped video deposition, Romero said he thought to himself: ‘What? Four inches above the (floor)? The dog was scratching.’

He said: ‘In my head (I’m thinking) you think someone is trying to get into your unit with scratches four inches above the floor?’

At this point Depp started laughing and there was laughter in the public gallery.

Romero said: ‘They were so scared. They asked me to go inside the unit to check room by room. I did it, it’s part of my job.’

At one point Romero, who was giving the deposition in his car on his cell phone, could be seen blowing smoke out his nose having apparently just taken a hit from a vaping device.

Losing patience he began to drive around, still talking to one of Heard’s lawyers on his phone which was stuck on his dashboard.

Afterwards Bredehoft, Heard’s lawyer, said it was ‘the most bizarre deposition’ she had ever done.

Judge Penney Azcarate added: ‘I’ve never seen that before.’

At one point Romero could be seen blowing smoke out his nose having apparently just taken a hit from a vaping device. Losing patience he began to drive around, still talking to one of Heard's lawyers on his phone which was stuck on his dashboard

At one point Romero could be seen blowing smoke out his nose having apparently just taken a hit from a vaping device. Losing patience he began to drive around, still talking to one of Heard’s lawyers on his phone which was stuck on his dashboard

At one point Romero lost his cool and spoke of his frustration at having to speak to the lawyers.

He said: ‘Ugh. I’m so stressed out because of this, I don’t want to deal with this any more’.

Romero met Heard on May 25, 2016, four days after the final argument between Heard and Depp before the divorce.

She claims he hit her with a mobile phone at the apartment – he denies it.

Romero said that he didn’t see any bruises and cuts on Heard’s face at the time and she was 3ft away from him.

Asked if he would have seen anything, given they were so close and the light was good, he said: ‘That’s correct’.

Depp laughed again as an exasperated Romero said he wasn’t checking if Heard’s ‘eyelashes are not even’.

There was laughter in court once more when Romero said in response to another question: ‘I don’t remember what I got for breakfast’.

Earlier in the day, a Los Angeles police officer who attended the final argument between Depp and Heard before their divorce said she could have had a red face after ‘crying because (her) dog died.’

Tyler Hadden said that because Heard was ‘uncooperative’ he had no idea why she was upset having called 911 at her West Hollywood penthouse.

Heard claimed that Depp smacked her with a mobile phone during the May 2016 argument but clammed up when officers arrived.

Officer Hadden told the former couple’s $100m defamation trial he categorized the incident as a ‘verbal dispute’ only.

The cop told the jury he saw no evidence of injuries on Heard and that her red face was ‘consistent with crying’.

He said that ‘just because I see a female with pink cheeks and pink eyes doesn’t mean something happened’.

Officer Hadden said the red face could be because the person ‘started crying because their dog died’.

The question of Heard’s injuries that night are crucial to the case as a week later she filed for divorce and obtained a restraining order against Depp, accusing him of domestic violence.

She arrived at court with a large bruise on her right cheek, a picture of which was entered into the court file.

A Los Angeles police officer who attended the final May 2016 argument between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard before their divorce said she could have had a red face after 'crying because (her) dog died'

A Los Angeles police officer who attended the final May 2016 argument between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard before their divorce said she could have had a red face after ‘crying because (her) dog died’

Hadden said that because Heard was 'uncooperative' he had no idea why she was upset having called 911 at her West Hollywood penthouse

Hadden said that because Heard was ‘uncooperative’ he had no idea why she was upset having called 911 at her West Hollywood penthouse

LAPD officer William Gatlin told the court that he and a colleague went to see Heard again at 10.24pm that night.

It appeared that a friend of Heard’s had called the New York police department about the incident, and they wanted to return to check on her themselves.

The court was shown footage from officer Gatlin’s body camera which showed them entering the building and walking down the corridor to the penthouse.

Heard’s friend Josh Drew answered the door and tried to persuade the officers to leave by telling them that other cops had already come by, but they insisted on going in.

Officer Gatlin agreed that Drew was ‘uncooperative’.

The footage showed the cops entering and asking if Heard was OK, and she confirmed she was.

Drew says that Depp is ‘definitely’ not there any more and had been gone a few hours and the officers left.

Officer Gatlin said that when they went inside ‘it didn’t seem like anybody was particularly eager to talk to us’.

The cop said that due to the ‘dim lighting’ he couldn’t see if Heard had any bruises on her face or not.

The cop said that based on the LAPD’s investigation it appeared Heard was not a victim of domestic violence.

He said: ‘Based on her refusing to give any statement on what occurred and at the time we did not observe any visible or verifiable injuries to her’.

However officer Gatlin said he was ‘not in a position’ to say if Depp beat up Heard as he was not there when the incident occurred.

Officer Gatlin was asked about claims by Heard’s former lawyer Adam Waldman in media interviews that Heard and her friends were ‘attempting to concoct an abuse hoax.’

The cop said he could not recall seeing anything like that.

Officer Gatlin was asked if he saw Heard and her friends ‘spilling wine and roughing the place up?’

He replied that he did not.

There was laughter in court when Bredehoft asked the officer if he was a ‘fan’ of Depp’s at the time they went to the property.

Officer Gatlin said: ‘I guess I liked a couple of his movies, not rush out to see them or anything’.

LAPD officer William Gatlin told the court that he and a colleague went to see Heard again at 10.24pm that night

LAPD officer William Gatlin told the court that he and a colleague went to see Heard again at 10.24pm that night

The court was shown footage from officer Gatlin's body camera which showed them entering the building and walking down the corridor to the penthouse

The court was shown footage from officer Gatlin’s body camera which showed them entering the building and walking down the corridor to the penthouse

Heard's friend Josh Drew answered the door and tried to persuade the officers to leave by telling them that other cops had already come by, but they insisted on going in

Heard’s friend Josh Drew answered the door and tried to persuade the officers to leave by telling them that other cops had already come by, but they insisted on going in

Officer Gatlin said that when they went inside 'it didn't seem like anybody was particularly eager to talk to us'. The cop said that due to the 'dim lighting' he couldn't see if Heard had any bruises on her face or not

Officer Gatlin said that when they went inside ‘it didn’t seem like anybody was particularly eager to talk to us’. The cop said that due to the ‘dim lighting’ he couldn’t see if Heard had any bruises on her face or not

Officer Melissa Saenz appeared via a pre-taped video deposition on Tuesday. She was asked about the visit to the penthouse apartment that Depp and Heard shared on May 21, 2016.

Under questioning from Heard’s lawyer Elaine Bredehoft, Saenz said, ‘I did not identify her as a victim of domestic violence,’ adding that she did not see any evidence of a crime, including broken glass or mess in the penthouse. 

It was the last argument between Depp and Heard before she filed for a divorce and a restraining order, which she did a week later.

In request for the restraining order, Heard claimed that Depp hit her with a cell phone during that encounter, leaving her with a bruise on the right side of her face.

In the court file, Heard included an image of the bruise.

Bredehoft showed the photo photo of Amber’s face to Saenz and asked ,’Do you perceive there to be an injury or evidence of injury on amber’s face in this photo?’

Saenz responded, ‘No I do not.’ 

Bredehoft asked, ‘What is your perception of the redness on the cheek and the eyelid and above the eyebrow?’

Saenz responded, ‘Its consistent with her crying – she’s fair skin, her face is flushed.’ 

Bredehoft asked, ‘You don’t think it’s consistent with a cell phone being thrown at her?’

Saenz responded, ‘Correct, it does not look like an injury caused from a cell phone. It’s consistent with someone crying.’

Bredehoft asked, ‘If you saw any signs of injury on Amber Heard or even just damage to the property, would you have been duty bound to make a report?’

‘Correct.’

Bredehoft asked, ‘Now, your recollection is that there was damage to the flat, you searched the entire flat and there was no damage, no broken glass, or anything out of the ordinary, would you agree?’

‘Correct’

Bredehoft asked, ‘When you got back to the elevator is there anything you remember thinking?’

Saenz responded, ‘I remember being impressed by the penthouse, how big and beautiful it was yes.’

Officer Melissa Saenz appeared via a pre-taped video deposition on Tuesday. She was asked about the visit to the penthouse apartment that Depp and Heard shared on May 21, 2016

Officer Melissa Saenz appeared via a pre-taped video deposition on Tuesday. She was asked about the visit to the penthouse apartment that Depp and Heard shared on May 21, 2016

This photo shown in court from May 2016 of Amber Heard with an apparently bruised cheek, which has been referred to as an exhibit

Another photo shown to court shows a mark below her eye in an alleged attack Heard claims was her ex-husband's final act or violence towards her

These photos were shown in court from May 2016 of Amber Heard with an apparently bruised cheek. Saenz said, ‘I did not identify her as a victim of domestic violence,’ adding that she did not see any evidence of a crime, including broken glass or mess in the penthouse

Bredehoft asked, 'When you got back to the elevator is there anything you remember thinking?' Saenz responded, 'I remember being impressed by the penthouse, how big and beautiful it was, yes.' Depp's penthouse building in LA is pictured

Bredehoft asked, ‘When you got back to the elevator is there anything you remember thinking?’ Saenz responded, ‘I remember being impressed by the penthouse, how big and beautiful it was, yes.’ Depp’s penthouse building in LA is pictured 

Her testimony followed expert witness Dr. Shannon Curry to the stand. The clinical and forensic psychologist told the court she concluded Heard had traits consistent with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) and Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD) – two conditions found in people with patterns of emotional instability and attention-seeking behavior. 

Dr. Curry testified that she was initially hired by Depp’s lawyers early last year to review files in the legal battle between the two feuding exes and identify behavior in their relationship that may be consistent with ‘intimate partner violence’. 

The psychology expert, however, revealed her role would shift several months later in October, when she was asked to provide a psychological evaluation of Heard, 36. 

‘The results of Ms. Heard’s evaluation supported two diagnoses: Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) and Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD),’ Curry told the court. 

She concluded that Heard ‘grossly exaggerated’ her post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) after her relationship with Depp and said that in the actress’s eyes, the actor went from being ‘idealized to the dumpster.’

Dr. Curry noted that Heard’s BPD was marked by an ‘underlying terror of abandonment’ and somebody with the condition tends to make ‘desperate attempts’ to stop it from happening.

These could be ‘very extreme behaviors’, she said.

Curry added that as a result of these disorders, somebody like Heard could appear charming at the start of a friendship or relationship but could then turn dark easily.



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